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Re: Victoria Part Three: The Anti-Islam Guy — Elliott C. Back

Dajjal — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:57:19 -0000

Religion is derived from a word which means to bind. Islam is binding: it enslaves men to Allah. In modern usage, religion implies benign pacifism & spirituality. Islam is mercenary & malignant.

Do not take my word for this, do your own research. Read Surahs Al-Anfal, At-Taubah & Al-Fath. 8:1 tells us that the spoils of war belong to Moe. What has the "great religion of peace" have to do with war and accrual of spoils? 8:39 commands Muslims to fight pagans until only Allah is worshiped in the entire world. 9:29 commands Muslims to fight Jews, Christians & Zoroastrians until they are subjugated and make annual extortion payments. 8:12 commands Muslims to terrorize their victims. 33:26-27 shows us the consequences of casting terror. 8:67 sanctifies and mandates genocide. At the same time it reveals Moe's motivation: "the good of this world" ; spoils of war. Allah sets "great slaughter" as the price of admission to his paradise.

I do not mis-translate Islamic scripture, nor do I mis-interpret it because I do neither. I rely on translations and the meaning of Allah's commands is clear on the face of the text. Nay more! The meaning of Moe's recitation is confirmed by his actions: the battles he ordered and engaged in. The Qur'an & hadith form a congruent, mutually reinforcing pattern.

Lest there be any doubt, Ibn Kathir spent his entire adult life studying and teaching Islamic scripture & jurisprudence. His tafsir is regarded as authentic. It confirms the obvious meaning of the clear verses of the Qur'an.

The Muslim Student Association at U.S.C. maintains a web site with three parallel translations of the Qur'an by Yusuf Ali, Pickthall & Shakir. It also provides abridgments of the four major hadith collections. My web site, Crusader's Armory, has links to those resources and .chm files containing the Noble Qur'an and hadith which Windows users can download, search and study. There is another file, EgregiousAyat.chm, which contains the most violent verses along with related tafsir topics and a substantial quote from Islamic law.

Shari'ah also confirms the obvious meaning of the Qur'an. Umdat as-Salik or Reliance of the Traveller, which you can read as a scanned image at Scribid, reveals enough to make any sane man curse Islam. I will quote it here. Note that O9.8 quotes the ayat upon which it is based.

O9.8: The Objectives of Jihad

The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),

the time and place for which is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus' descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace), which is the divinely revealed law of Muhammad. The coming of Jesus does not entail a separate divinely revealed law, for he will rule by the law of Muhammad. As for the Prophet's saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),

"I am the last, there will be no prophet after me,"

this does not contradict the final coming of Jesus (upon whom be peace), since he will not rule according to the Evangel, but as a follower of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) ).

@O9.9

The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim (O: because they are not a people with a Book, nor honored as such, and are not permitted to settle with paying the poll tax (jizya) ) (n: though according to the Hanafi school, peoples of all other religions, even idol worshippers, are permitted to live under the protection of the Islamic state if they either become Muslim or agree to pay the poll tax, the sole exceptions to which are apostates from Islam and idol worshippers who are Arabs, neither of whom has any choice but becoming Muslim (al-Hidaya sharh Bidaya al-mubtadi' (y21), 6.48-49) ).

That is Islamic law, based on Moe's recitation & sunnah. The Caliph makes war. Read O9.1 to learn how often he does it.

The most essential evidence of the mercenary & martial malignancy of Islam, with links to source documents, may be found by directing your favorite search engine to "What's Wrong With Islam/Muslims?". At http://totheulama.wordpress.com/2008/02/
you will find links for downloading the Qur'an & hadith in several formats and languages.

If you doubt the obvious face value meaning of any of those verses, search for them by surah:ayeh number at http://www.qtafsir.com . Ibn Kathir's Tafsir topics for the most egregious ayat are linked in the ROPMA post. The titles alone should be sufficient to convince any thinking person.

# The Command to fight Those Who fight Muslims and killing Them wherever They are found
# The Command to strike the Enemies’ Necks, tighten Their Bonds, and then free Them either by an Act of Grace or for a Ransom
# The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah
# The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers, the Closest, then the Farthest Areas
# The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr
# The Order to fight until there is no more Fitnah
# The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers and Hypocrites

Here is the U/RL: http://totheulama.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/ropma/ go there and click the links, read them all and get informed. Ibn Kathir displays the Arabic, English translation, relevant hadith and his expert opinion.

Re: Victoria Part Three: The Anti-Islam Guy — Elliott C. Back

elliottback — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:33:49 -0000

All religion is a dangerous cult?

Re: Victoria Part Three: The Anti-Islam Guy — Elliott C. Back

muhammadan rasullollah — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:09:17 -0000

islam is not a religion

is a dangerous Cult

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leelive — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:35:16 -0000

For you Brits: Muslims, more specifically the more radical Islamic hate mongers, call us Westerners, Isralies, and all non-muslims (sons of) apes and pigs. Better those than filthy cockroaches and termites which these people are. What is usually done with cockroaches and termites? They're exterminated. It is the stated goal of Islamists to do just that to all non-Muslims. So, the table needs to be turned. First, start rounding up ALL those redical Islamists and publically execute a few of them. If that doesn't change attitudes, then go into the Muslim ghettos and torch them. Get them before they get you, because that is exactly their intentions, to kill you, and your children. Islam is absolutely a seriously fucked-up ideology.

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bahrag — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:29:25 -0000

I think we should act upon this disease of islam reaching too civalised parts of the world, seriuosly ive looked into alot of research of the quaran and all it talks about is fighting for Allah and killing non believers, other than christianity,judaism,buddism, etc they explain about peace and respecting other religions.

Now looking too prophets Mohammed invaded around 47 countries, stole from them and started slave trade in africa he also used racism to the black people of africa also mohammed had 4 wives including a 9 year old girl which i think is classed as pedephilia i see this as a barbaric figure which has no respect for human life.

Now looking at the christian equivelant 'jesus' he healed people, always said respect your neihbours, told people that you dont need to pay the church lots of money its about your love to god and you can worship god were ever you are, jesus never harmed a person he aways gave good advice and fed the hungry so in this case i see jesus a highly respectable person in history which everyone can look up too.

now in judaism they have there equivelant moses who is also in the christian bible, moses led jewish slaves to a promised land by God and also enstated the 10 comandments which told people basic morals which is also in our today laws.

Buddism has there own prophet figure Bhuda who gave greta advice and ecouraged peace.

look im not here to offend anyone im just giving true facts and showing my views ok of course there is nice muslim people out of course but there is radical islamic people who have a plan to make the whole planet islamic which i completely disagree too i think people should stop being afriad of discrimination or racism because its all one sided so its not even a fair process.

something must change or there will be cival wars in various countrys and this will most likely lead to another holy war which will be the end of the world or another light of world peace what ever way i see this i think things need to be changed. and they need to be changed now. FULL STOP

I live in Great britain and i have recognised islam is creeping in all the media i see mosques in alot of towns i visit and i have recognised some parts of the country are not 1 bit british this is discraseful, islam is tryin to take over the world we must act. now.

i hope ive not offended any one and im deeply sorry if i have. and i am saying this becasue there is extremists that wil probably try to kill me.

Re: Victoria Part Three: The Anti-Islam Guy — Elliott C. Back

Funkyboy — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:20:33 -0000

I can't believe all the Muslim replies!!...

Can the Muslims explain to me why, for the past few years , they have been blowing themselves up, practically EVERY DAY in the name of ISLAM??

I don't see Christians or Hindus doing that ever day, or at all..

Obviously, there is something different in your Religion that causes this...

Come on!!

Re: Victoria Part Three: The Anti-Islam Guy — Elliott C. Back

Sam Johnson — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:15:38 -0000

You are a true asset to Islam Faiza. Wish you all the best. May ALLAH subhana tallah bless you and punish all the others that cannot see the light of true Islam. Ameen

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Sam Johnson — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:11:59 -0000

Faiza i think you are fab. You have sufficiently cleared a mojority of unsubscribed misconceptions and therefore i declare and am proud to say i have converted into a Muslim.
Cheers for showing me the right path

Re: Victoria Part Three: The Anti-Islam Guy — Elliott C. Back

Faiza Saleem — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:09:17 -0000

well. Faiza you are fab

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Faiza Saleem — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:31:27 -0000

Isalm teaches you as well as respecting your own religion you should respect everyone elses and i belive this is a factor amongst all religions well im sorry but this website is being extremely offensive towrads my religion and all i can see is clear ignorance, well never mind thatsd what im here for to clear misconceptions about islam, if you want to know anything about Islam please do not hesitate to contact Faiza because i am here to clear ignorance so plsz contact me on faizasaleem@hotmail.co.uk, and remember it isnt the followers that you should look at but the authentic scriptures because if i wanted to know more about lets say Chritianity and i looked at the followers i would get a totaly differant picture, Jesus was curcumcitzed yet no Chrisitan male is but muslims are, mary wore a head scarf yet no christain does but a majority of muslim women do. In the book of deutronomy pork is prohibited yet many christains still eat it and muslims dont. Well putting all that into perspective even you would agree that Muslims are more christians then christians themselves

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Faiza Saleem — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:19:18 -0000

Right. well let me begin with what the word Islam means. Islam means submission (submitting your will to god), clearly many Muslims arent doing that because all you non-muslims can see all the negative things about Musilms. Well firstly anyone critising any religion should not look at its followers but the authentic scriptures, in this case the Quran and the Hadith. Many non-muslims and also some muslims are confused about one word in particular which they believe means holy war "Jihad", well let me clarify to you all that Jihad means to strive and struggle and even non-muslims do Jihad e.g when you are striving in work and struggling ot perform your best. If you translate this word into English referance (wikepidia) it does not mean holy war. There is not a single verse in the whole of the Quran or Hadith which mentions holy war because Islam is a religion of peace and Harmony, in the Quran it mentions to use force as a last resort not first. If you believe that all terrorists are muslims well you know that is lie. Why is the Britsh gov so afraid of Muslims when the IRA terrorist group have plotted more attakcs against Britain than any other terrorist group put together (for more info on this contact me on faizasaleem@hotmail.co.uk). When Hitler killed all the jews i believe this was a terrorist attack, was he a muslim? no, you guessed right. Nelson Mandela was titled a major terrorist when he stood up to inequality in South africa, yet today he is the president of South africa. Many black people thought he was doing right yet the white people found this as a terrorist threat, same thing but two differant titles.

Re: Victoria Part Three: The Anti-Islam Guy — Elliott C. Back

iram — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:37:21 -0000

wow...people who tlk against ALLAh obviously are peopel of ignorance. many poeple are so quick to judge muslims while many don't even now their religion in dept. all i can say is to poeple who are anti -islam, is that r u kidding me u tlk about us muslims being terrorists, us being people who don't respect women, well open the quran and read it. as for some people that said to read quran you need to read arabic, there are thousands of tranlsation of the quran in english. so read it. lolz
and for people who watch the news...dude wake up...they're brainwashing you...n 2 actually think...guess who ownes many of the tv broadcasts....beleive it or not they're jews...i myself am a PROUND MUSLIM..who isn't ashamed of my religion..rather i incourage non- muslims to read it...n truly look to understand it rather them opposing against it...
n inshallah ALLAH will put in heavens those who belive in the oneness of ALLAH and mohammad (s.a.w) being the last messenger

Re: Victoria Part Three: The Anti-Islam Guy — Elliott C. Back

Liz — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:45:32 -0000

every realgion has its extreemest I work with and for Muslims, I myself am Pagan. as a people I find nothing rong with Muslims and I have read both the Koran and the Bibble and both have disturbing content ...so what. both books are really old it only makes sence that sume of the content in the books are no longer exctbatel ....the hole war is just a wast of time, life and monny.

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Jeff — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:32:26 -0000

medieval

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Jeff — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:29:28 -0000

Allah is a pig and his followers,win or loose this war will be ripped apart burning over and over for all eternity for the medevial acts they commit and ways they follow.

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Khan — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:39:09 -0000

All I can say is May Allah forgive every one who makes wrong statements about Islam. Islam is all about Peace and brotherhood. You will be questioned on the day of judgement. Please think twice bofore making any statements.

May Allah save you all fom the evil and fire of hell.

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Jeff — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:12:41 -0000

Stupid? We should all beware Islam.Much more than George Bush.
I am afraid you are wrong about the cross you are obviously a retard.
In the year 1120 the Knights Hospitallers of the order of St.John sometimes known as the Knights of Malta were orderd to wear a white eight pointed cross on their robes.
The Red or "Rosy" cross that this fellow crusader is wearing was granted to the Templar Knights by St.Bernard of Clairvaux in 1128.
Have a nice day.
Learn from the past and you will not be on the wrong side of history again.
WAKE UP!!!

Re: Victoria Part Three: The Anti-Islam Guy — Elliott C. Back

Stabby — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 02:03:31 -0000

Funny how that's the Maltese cross... Seriously look it up. It's the cross used by the knights of Malta. I wear that same cross around my neck (because I was in Malta not because I'm a knight of Malta). That dude is obviously stupid.

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Someguy — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:38:04 -0000

We definitely need another crusade!

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Deron — Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:59:56 -0000

Don’t forget many of the Muslim that live in America have been Americanized. So I’m not too worried about attacks at this point. For the FBI, CIA, and NSA are violating the right to privacy of Muslims. But keep in mined that 12% to 15% of Muslims worldwide would like to kill Americans. That would put it about 650,000 people that would like to kill us Americans.

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Jonathan Giles — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:41:59 -0000

I've read all the comments on this page and I'm shocked by the level of ignorance displayed here; I wonder whether some of you are writing comments that are deliberately controversial, or whether you truly believe some of the things you have written.
The central feature of this naivety is the belief that Islam is a violent religion, or that the majority of Muslims adhere to a violent interpretation of Islam. Both of these are false; Islam, like all religions, is open to interpretation. The "definition" of good Muslim behaviour is derived from a combination of direct and allegorical instruction from the Koran and the Sunnah (the example set by Muhammad). It is true that some Muslims have taken a rather violent interpretation from these sources, these would be regarded as "radicals" by the majority of Muslims (much in the same way as the so-called "Christian Fundamentalists" in West, connected to violent acts such as the bombing of abortion clinics). Unfortunately, it is only the radical Muslims that one sees in the media, and if one does not meet any Muslims in day-to-day life, it is only these radical Muslims that one sees.
The majority of Muslims, living in Muslim countries or in the West, live conventional lives; they have regular jobs, they raise families, they mow their lawns and wash their cars at the weekend, and they regard religion as a personal matter. Of the four Muslims who I know personally; three drink alcohol, one smokes marijuana, all wear 'normal' clothes (excepting on specific family occasions), and only one prays five times daily (the same one who smokes weed). They all regard themselves as Muslims (though they regularly criticise themselves for being "bad muslims"), and they enjoy debating religious issues with me - the conversations are always fairly open, and no one has been truly offended yet.

This tread began with a photograph of a man in Australia claiming that Islam is a religion of war and wearing a symbol reminiscent of the crusades, which I would have thought the majority of people to find laughable: he is labelling Islam a religion of war but he is also making reference to the militant history of Christianity (presumably his own religion).

To all of you who believe that Islam is a religion of violence; imagine a person who has lived their entire life in a remote village, their only experience of Western culture being the one channel their television can receive: MTV, imagine that person trying to claim that all Western culture revolves around sex and violence. You would call him a fool, surely, and say that there is much more to Western culture than MTV (or indeed MTV2), yet it is in just the same position that you find yourself in when you watch the network news and read the occasional newspaper article.

Remember: trying to understand the reasons for another's actions is not the same thing as attempting to condone that person's actions. It is through understanding the causes of something that we can hope to change or stop it.

As an antidote to ignorance, I can recommend two (Western) authors, who write in a down-to-earth and informative style, these are: John L. Esposito and Fred Halliday. If you choose not to read further, that is fine, but remember, it is a choice you have made, you have chosen to let your view of the world rest on incomplete accounts and first impressions.

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joseph lebanese christian — Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:37:10 -0000

the crusades has to start now !!!!! those mutha fuckas shot my father in lebanon , threw a grenade at my uncle in a coffee shop , shot my grand mother in her head just because she was christian in a muslim village , and i have 2 friends that were beaten to death because they were walkin around with a cross around theyr neck , so u tell me that islam is a religion of peace ???? well fuck who ever thinks thats true , i know alot of muslims , most of them are liers they say to ppl that theyr peacefull , but if u ever listen to them talkin among them selves muslim to muslim , ull see that they are totally different people , if u think im lyin i dont give a fuck , its 100 % im lebanese christian and proud of it , and i hope they kill every muslim who has a problem with other religions , becoz 90 % of muslims want to kill or hurt who ever isnt a muslim , only 10 % of them are good people because theyr not believers or not fanatics about theyr religions , check all sites that has 2 do with anti-islam ull see they are the only sites that describe the true meaning of islam , i hope who ever reads this understands what im saying

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Yazeed — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:56:03 -0000

May God help you all those who talk about islam in a bad way, hope one day you will realize that what you said is totally wrong. dont take one part of the Qoran and make your judgement... read it more and more and your will see that it has words from God, it has what makes your life happy and pleased, you may never fear from the smallest things on earth when you know that any "Good or Bad" is at the end from God, testing your believe in him... May God help your really

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Dave — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:06:55 -0000

Mohammed had four wives. One he married when she was nine, one he took from his adopted son while his son was alive. Mohammed was a pedophile and an adulterer.

Mohammed led battles of murder and theft against those who did not agree he was a "messanger of god." Murder and theft have not departed from Islam to this day. Look at what the Shiites and Sunnis were doing to each other in Iraq while trying to blame the Americans for all Iraq's troubles.

There were contradictions found in Islam, other parts were similar to religious writings published in his day.

Where did they get the idea pork is unholy? This was strictly superstition and not from God. Pork is high in protein and contains calories for substinence. Pork is a holy meat.

The Koran advised to be at peace with those who are at peace with you, yet the Islamic called for Jihad too often. If I were to speak badly of Islam some might consider it grounds my execution and the confiscation of my home. If an Arab in Saudi Arabia converted to Christianity, in the past they would have beheaded him/her. More recently it was jail and expulsion from the K.S.A. The religion Islam blasmphemed God.

There are people with Muslim names who prefer to be secular with hope of a better life.

Recommended reading: Ibn Warraq: Why I Am Not A Muslim

Re: Victoria Part Three: The Anti-Islam Guy — Elliott C. Back

Abderrahim — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:29:42 -0000

Peace be upon you,
people who say that Islam is bloody are completely wrong.They can't get the true gist of this religion.They will be jusged and severly punished for this on doomsday if they don't repent.Read the Koran and understand it and you will understand that Islam is different and that you are on the wrong path.I am dead sure that you will die, face God and you will find yourself in a bad situation and you will be punished and you will dwell in hell forever.