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may i know why people say that islam is a religion of war when my best friends are muslims and they are practising muslims and they dont drink dont fight and love peace
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2 websites that show the truth about islam JOIN THIS MAN.... UPROOT ISLAM AND DESTROY IT!!
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Turn off FOX channel for five minutes and tell me where in the Quraan does it say that non-muslims should call muslims "kafirs"...
I cna tell you that there's a verse that tells muslims to discuss religion issues with non-muslims in a lenient and wise way...
Why don't you just get a real transalation of the Quraan and read it...
or you're afraid you'll end up like Cat Stevens??
Your life..your mind...your hoice..
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nyway non of the verses of the holy quraan says that we should kill .. islam care about the relation between Allah(god) and his/ her creature
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on November 26th, 2005 at 2:10 pm
hi
may i know why people say that islam is a religion of war when my best friends are muslims and they are practising muslims and they dont drink dont fight and love peace
"Ofcourse you may know!
It is so simple. As European and American Youth we can not stand anymore our governments and even our Pope, trying to excuse for Islam and tolerating their over radical terorrism.
Since I was a child all my Muslim friends, have criticized our beliefs, they have made fun of Holy Trinity, Virgin Mary and so on. This is the Islamic Stategy. And if you answer them they get furious. Because all in all, they do not know a bit about their glorious(!) Quran!
And they keep on insisting the Islam to be the latest and most modern religion. Evidence? Look at Iran, Iraq, Pakisthan, Syria... How happy they are! :LOL: They are killing eachother, cutting the hands and legs of the small children, slaughtering masses of people, prosecuting women to death and than saying Islam is the Religion of Humanity in International Era :LOL: x 10 :)
Ofcourse you may know, as a young Christian, I can not stand being Criticized by mostly non theologist fully bearded so called Immam's for what I beleive. And I can not stand, after hundred years of silence, can not handling a small "quote" (A quote it was not a critic!) of the Pope and killing Christians, bombing Churches!!
If Christian world have reacted to each simple critic came from Muslims up to date there would be 9 world wars behind us!
So please, try to understand! But If you still can not
Make love not war and be prosecuted to death according to Islamic Shariat...
:rolleyes:
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Though if you really want to start showing your support for democracy I ask that Muslims form a coalition that promotes democracy and pushes for the Freedom of Speech to be used against Muslim ideology. I want to see Madonna doing her thing on the Koran soon please! And I want to see no death threats after beyond one or two idiots that you denounce.
Even so I went to find opinions from some apostates. And this is from http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/fromb...
Although I knew of Jihad and never questioned it before, I found it hard to accept that God would recourse to such violent measures to impose himself on people. What was more shocking was the cruelty of Allah in dealing with the unbelievers.
I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them 8:12
It seemed that Allah was not just satisfied with killing the unbelievers. He enjoyed torturing them before killing them. Smiting peoples heads from above their necks and chopping their fingertips were very cruel acts. Would really God give such orders? And yet the worst is what he promised to do with the unbelievers in the other world:
These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), Taste ye the Penalty of Burning! 22:19-22
How could the creator of this universe be so petty? These verses of the Quran shocked me. I was shocked to learn how Allah ordered killing people, how he would torture them eternally in such a horrible ways for no reason but disbelief. I was shocked to learn that Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q.2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q.9:123), fight with them, (Q.8:65) humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax if they are Christians or Jews, (Q.9:29) and slay them if they are Pagans (Q.9:5). I was shocked when I learned that Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tells clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q.3:85). That Allah would relegate those who disbelieve in the Quran to Hell (Q.5:11) and calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q.9:28). I was shocked to learn that Allah orders the Muslims to fight the unbelievers until no other religion is left other than Islam (Q.2:193), or that he says that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water (Q.14:17), and asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and the feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace. And as if this were not enough, that they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter (Q.5:34). I was shocked when I reads words such as As for the disbelievers, for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowls and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods (Q.22:9). How sadistic! But that was not all. The Quran also prohibits Muslims to befriend their own fathers or brothers if they are not believers (Q.9:23), (Q.3:28) and that actually Muhammad encouraged his followers to kill their own family in the battles of Badr and Uhud and asks the Muslims to strive against the unbelievers with great endeavor (Q.25:52), and be stern with them because they belong to hell (Q.66:9). How can any sinsible person remain unmoved when he of she finds the Quran saying: strike off the heads of the disbelievers then after making a wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives (Q.47:4).
The book of Allah says that women are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to beat them (Q.4:34), and that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (Q.66:10). It says that men have an advantage over the women (Q.2:228). It not only denies women equal right to their inheritance (Q.4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their testimony alone is not admissible in the court (Q.2:282). This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness, which of course is a joke. Rapist don't rape in the presence of witnesses. But the most shocking verse was where Allah allows Muslims to rape the women captured in wars even if they are married before being captured, (Q.4:24) (Q.4:3). I was shocked to learn that the holy prophet raped the prettiest women that he captured in his raids in the same day that he killed their husbands and loved ones. This is why anytime a Muslim army subdues another nation, they call them kafir and rape their women. Pakistani soldiers raped up to 250,000 Bangali women in 1971 and massacred 3,000,000 unarmed civilians when their religious leader decreed that Bangladeshis are un-Islamic. This is why the prison guards in Islamic regime of Iran rape the women and then kill them after calling them apostates and the enemies of Allah.
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people who say that Islam is bloody are completely wrong.They can't get the true gist of this religion.They will be jusged and severly punished for this on doomsday if they don't repent.Read the Koran and understand it and you will understand that Islam is different and that you are on the wrong path.I am dead sure that you will die, face God and you will find yourself in a bad situation and you will be punished and you will dwell in hell forever.
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Mohammed led battles of murder and theft against those who did not agree he was a "messanger of god." Murder and theft have not departed from Islam to this day. Look at what the Shiites and Sunnis were doing to each other in Iraq while trying to blame the Americans for all Iraq's troubles.
There were contradictions found in Islam, other parts were similar to religious writings published in his day.
Where did they get the idea pork is unholy? This was strictly superstition and not from God. Pork is high in protein and contains calories for substinence. Pork is a holy meat.
The Koran advised to be at peace with those who are at peace with you, yet the Islamic called for Jihad too often. If I were to speak badly of Islam some might consider it grounds my execution and the confiscation of my home. If an Arab in Saudi Arabia converted to Christianity, in the past they would have beheaded him/her. More recently it was jail and expulsion from the K.S.A. The religion Islam blasmphemed God.
There are people with Muslim names who prefer to be secular with hope of a better life.
Recommended reading: Ibn Warraq: Why I Am Not A Muslim
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The central feature of this naivety is the belief that Islam is a violent religion, or that the majority of Muslims adhere to a violent interpretation of Islam. Both of these are false; Islam, like all religions, is open to interpretation. The "definition" of good Muslim behaviour is derived from a combination of direct and allegorical instruction from the Koran and the Sunnah (the example set by Muhammad). It is true that some Muslims have taken a rather violent interpretation from these sources, these would be regarded as "radicals" by the majority of Muslims (much in the same way as the so-called "Christian Fundamentalists" in West, connected to violent acts such as the bombing of abortion clinics). Unfortunately, it is only the radical Muslims that one sees in the media, and if one does not meet any Muslims in day-to-day life, it is only these radical Muslims that one sees.
The majority of Muslims, living in Muslim countries or in the West, live conventional lives; they have regular jobs, they raise families, they mow their lawns and wash their cars at the weekend, and they regard religion as a personal matter. Of the four Muslims who I know personally; three drink alcohol, one smokes marijuana, all wear 'normal' clothes (excepting on specific family occasions), and only one prays five times daily (the same one who smokes weed). They all regard themselves as Muslims (though they regularly criticise themselves for being "bad muslims"), and they enjoy debating religious issues with me - the conversations are always fairly open, and no one has been truly offended yet.
This tread began with a photograph of a man in Australia claiming that Islam is a religion of war and wearing a symbol reminiscent of the crusades, which I would have thought the majority of people to find laughable: he is labelling Islam a religion of war but he is also making reference to the militant history of Christianity (presumably his own religion).
To all of you who believe that Islam is a religion of violence; imagine a person who has lived their entire life in a remote village, their only experience of Western culture being the one channel their television can receive: MTV, imagine that person trying to claim that all Western culture revolves around sex and violence. You would call him a fool, surely, and say that there is much more to Western culture than MTV (or indeed MTV2), yet it is in just the same position that you find yourself in when you watch the network news and read the occasional newspaper article.
Remember: trying to understand the reasons for another's actions is not the same thing as attempting to condone that person's actions. It is through understanding the causes of something that we can hope to change or stop it.
As an antidote to ignorance, I can recommend two (Western) authors, who write in a down-to-earth and informative style, these are: John L. Esposito and Fred Halliday. If you choose not to read further, that is fine, but remember, it is a choice you have made, you have chosen to let your view of the world rest on incomplete accounts and first impressions.
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I am afraid you are wrong about the cross you are obviously a retard.
In the year 1120 the Knights Hospitallers of the order of St.John sometimes known as the Knights of Malta were orderd to wear a white eight pointed cross on their robes.
The Red or "Rosy" cross that this fellow crusader is wearing was granted to the Templar Knights by St.Bernard of Clairvaux in 1128.
Have a nice day.
Learn from the past and you will not be on the wrong side of history again.
WAKE UP!!!
2 years ago
May Allah save you all fom the evil and fire of hell.
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and for people who watch the news...dude wake up...they're brainwashing you...n 2 actually think...guess who ownes many of the tv broadcasts....beleive it or not they're jews...i myself am a PROUND MUSLIM..who isn't ashamed of my religion..rather i incourage non- muslims to read it...n truly look to understand it rather them opposing against it...
n inshallah ALLAH will put in heavens those who belive in the oneness of ALLAH and mohammad (s.a.w) being the last messenger
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Cheers for showing me the right path
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Can the Muslims explain to me why, for the past few years , they have been blowing themselves up, practically EVERY DAY in the name of ISLAM??
I don't see Christians or Hindus doing that ever day, or at all..
Obviously, there is something different in your Religion that causes this...
Come on!!
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Now looking too prophets Mohammed invaded around 47 countries, stole from them and started slave trade in africa he also used racism to the black people of africa also mohammed had 4 wives including a 9 year old girl which i think is classed as pedephilia i see this as a barbaric figure which has no respect for human life.
Now looking at the christian equivelant 'jesus' he healed people, always said respect your neihbours, told people that you dont need to pay the church lots of money its about your love to god and you can worship god were ever you are, jesus never harmed a person he aways gave good advice and fed the hungry so in this case i see jesus a highly respectable person in history which everyone can look up too.
now in judaism they have there equivelant moses who is also in the christian bible, moses led jewish slaves to a promised land by God and also enstated the 10 comandments which told people basic morals which is also in our today laws.
Buddism has there own prophet figure Bhuda who gave greta advice and ecouraged peace.
look im not here to offend anyone im just giving true facts and showing my views ok of course there is nice muslim people out of course but there is radical islamic people who have a plan to make the whole planet islamic which i completely disagree too i think people should stop being afriad of discrimination or racism because its all one sided so its not even a fair process.
something must change or there will be cival wars in various countrys and this will most likely lead to another holy war which will be the end of the world or another light of world peace what ever way i see this i think things need to be changed. and they need to be changed now. FULL STOP
I live in Great britain and i have recognised islam is creeping in all the media i see mosques in alot of towns i visit and i have recognised some parts of the country are not 1 bit british this is discraseful, islam is tryin to take over the world we must act. now.
i hope ive not offended any one and im deeply sorry if i have. and i am saying this becasue there is extremists that wil probably try to kill me.
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Do not take my word for this, do your own research. Read Surahs Al-Anfal, At-Taubah & Al-Fath. 8:1 tells us that the spoils of war belong to Moe. What has the "great religion of peace" have to do with war and accrual of spoils? 8:39 commands Muslims to fight pagans until only Allah is worshiped in the entire world. 9:29 commands Muslims to fight Jews, Christians & Zoroastrians until they are subjugated and make annual extortion payments. 8:12 commands Muslims to terrorize their victims. 33:26-27 shows us the consequences of casting terror. 8:67 sanctifies and mandates genocide. At the same time it reveals Moe's motivation: "the good of this world" ; spoils of war. Allah sets "great slaughter" as the price of admission to his paradise.
I do not mis-translate Islamic scripture, nor do I mis-interpret it because I do neither. I rely on translations and the meaning of Allah's commands is clear on the face of the text. Nay more! The meaning of Moe's recitation is confirmed by his actions: the battles he ordered and engaged in. The Qur'an & hadith form a congruent, mutually reinforcing pattern.
Lest there be any doubt, Ibn Kathir spent his entire adult life studying and teaching Islamic scripture & jurisprudence. His tafsir is regarded as authentic. It confirms the obvious meaning of the clear verses of the Qur'an.
The Muslim Student Association at U.S.C. maintains a web site with three parallel translations of the Qur'an by Yusuf Ali, Pickthall & Shakir. It also provides abridgments of the four major hadith collections. My web site, Crusader's Armory, has links to those resources and .chm files containing the Noble Qur'an and hadith which Windows users can download, search and study. There is another file, EgregiousAyat.chm, which contains the most violent verses along with related tafsir topics and a substantial quote from Islamic law.
Shari'ah also confirms the obvious meaning of the Qur'an. Umdat as-Salik or Reliance of the Traveller, which you can read as a scanned image at Scribid, reveals enough to make any sane man curse Islam. I will quote it here. Note that O9.8 quotes the ayat upon which it is based.
O9.8: The Objectives of Jihad
The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),
the time and place for which is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus' descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace), which is the divinely revealed law of Muhammad. The coming of Jesus does not entail a separate divinely revealed law, for he will rule by the law of Muhammad. As for the Prophet's saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),
"I am the last, there will be no prophet after me,"
this does not contradict the final coming of Jesus (upon whom be peace), since he will not rule according to the Evangel, but as a follower of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) ).
@O9.9
The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim (O: because they are not a people with a Book, nor honored as such, and are not permitted to settle with paying the poll tax (jizya) ) (n: though according to the Hanafi school, peoples of all other religions, even idol worshippers, are permitted to live under the protection of the Islamic state if they either become Muslim or agree to pay the poll tax, the sole exceptions to which are apostates from Islam and idol worshippers who are Arabs, neither of whom has any choice but becoming Muslim (al-Hidaya sharh Bidaya al-mubtadi' (y21), 6.48-49) ).
That is Islamic law, based on Moe's recitation & sunnah. The Caliph makes war. Read O9.1 to learn how often he does it.
The most essential evidence of the mercenary & martial malignancy of Islam, with links to source documents, may be found by directing your favorite search engine to "What's Wrong With Islam/Muslims?". At http://totheulama.wordpress.com/2008/02/
you will find links for downloading the Qur'an & hadith in several formats and languages.
If you doubt the obvious face value meaning of any of those verses, search for them by surah:ayeh number at http://www.qtafsir.com . Ibn Kathir's Tafsir topics for the most egregious ayat are linked in the ROPMA post. The titles alone should be sufficient to convince any thinking person.
# The Command to fight Those Who fight Muslims and killing Them wherever They are found
# The Command to strike the Enemies’ Necks, tighten Their Bonds, and then free Them either by an Act of Grace or for a Ransom
# The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah
# The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers, the Closest, then the Farthest Areas
# The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr
# The Order to fight until there is no more Fitnah
# The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers and Hypocrites
Here is the U/RL: http://totheulama.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/ropma/ go there and click the links, read them all and get informed. Ibn Kathir displays the Arabic, English translation, relevant hadith and his expert opinion.