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Re: Nathan Williams, Daniel Tumat accused of murdering NZ teen John Hapeta

Harry Young — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:51:58 -0000

Judges in NZ are increasingly using supression of all medias and often even supress the reason that they are supressing. I have seen it from the victims perspective and it is a staggering betrayal of the victims and of justice.
The Jury/justice system is on it's last legs, but Judges and Lawyers are fighting to keep the system as it is, even though it is completely failing to provide justice for victims and for society as a whole. (Jurors only get $30 per day so most people wriggle out of it, leaving the quality of jurors low. AND then they only hear half of the story)

TheJudge and Lawyers reasons are twofold
1. they profit from the staus quo. The whole system is a game, where they write the rules and where they can not lose, however long they draw things out. They just get paid, whatever, for playing their game and they actually enjoy the intellectual stimulation of discrediting the other side as opposed to seeking truth and justice..
2. they are of a generation who thought that we could cure criminality by being nice to criminals and educating them. Wake up! They are scumbags.It doesn't work! The public are only safe when offenders are locked away. (And the right offenders, not framed up innocent ones)

So, now they are trying to use supression to block public scrutiny.
And in this case, the Judge is using the inevitable discussion of his bizarre action to publicise his new book.
How corrupt is that? Justice for the victim is out of the window to make a few bucks.

Re: Nathan Williams, Daniel Tumat accused of murdering NZ teen John Hapeta

John — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:47:08 -0000

Name suppression is used far too much in NZ, a case could be when it is a celebrity of sorts or someone with high public profile, even then only in some circumstances.
If the accused plead innocent and jury find them innocent then media will report such - no harm done. Big IF on the media though.

But, in this case the suppression order issue seems to be overtaking the actual news in that someone was murdered in their own home.

Re: Nathan Williams, Daniel Tumat accused of murdering NZ teen John Hapeta

Mat Collins — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:34:01 -0000

good on you, I'll stick with that intent.

Re: Nathan Williams, Daniel Tumat accused of murdering NZ teen John Hapeta

good on you — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:46:57 -0000

Maybe he knew it would be the best way to get the names out there?